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Review: iTunes 2.0.2

by Gregory Tetrault,


Developer: Apple Computer, Inc. (support)

Price: free

Requirements: Mac with built-in USB ports (officially—ATPM staffers have successfully used it on beige G3s and Wallstreets), Mac OS 9.0.4 or Mac OS X 10.1.

Recommended: Mac OS 9.2.1 or OS X 10.1.1


Apple Computer released iTunes 2 in November, in conjunction with the arrival of the new iPod portable FireWire music player. The iTunes application can perform a variety of audio-related tasks: play Internet radio stations, play MP3 files over the Internet (static and streaming), play stored MP3 files, convert among digital audio formats (MP3, AIFF, WAV), extract audio tracks from CDs, look up information about audio CDs using CDDB on the Internet, burn audio CDs in AIFF or MP3 format, organize audio files into playlists, and export audio files to an iPod.


The iTunes 2 installer for OS 9.x is in a 3.5 MB SMI file that you download from Apple’s iTunes Web site. The installer gives you no options; it installs iTunes into an “iTunes” folder created in the “Applications (Mac OS 9)” folder. (Yes, both the enclosing folder and the application are named iTunes, which is not a desirable way to organize files.) When you launch iTunes, it creates another “iTunes” folder in your “Documents” folder. This folder contains your music library and another folder, “iTunes Music,” that holds extracted or downloaded audio files. Do not rename the iTunes document folder, because iTunes will ignore the renamed folder and create a new one named “iTunes.”

New in iTunes 2

As others have observed, iTunes 2 should probably just be called iTunes 1.5. Very little has changed except for the incorporation of Disc Burner functionality (no separate application needed), the addition of an equalizer, and support for iPod. The equalizer makes a slight but noticeable difference when playing music on my Altec Lansing dual speaker plus subwoofer sound system.

Using iTunes 2

The full-size iTunes window has four areas. The top area has playback controls; an information window; a window for entering search text; a round button that changes among Browse, Refresh, Import, and Burn depending on what is viewed or selected; and close and minimize buttons.


iTunes 2 Full-Sized Window

Clicking the latter reduces iTunes to a small rounded rectangle. The Source window is on the left. Sources are Library, Radio Tuner (Internet radio), accessible media (such as CDs), and your playlists. The main window lists the contents of the selected Source. If the source is Library, then the main window lists the songs in your library. You use the View Options… preferences (Command-J) to pick which information columns to display. You can rearrange columns by dragging their titles left or right. The bottom area has two sets of three buttons separated by an area that can contain summary information about your library, playlists, or CDs. The three buttons at the left are for adding a new playlist or adding a song to an existing playlist, playing songs randomly from the active library or playlist, and putting a library, playlist, or CD in repeat mode. The three buttons at the right open the equalizer window, activate or deactivate the Visualizer, and eject CDs.


Minimized iTunes Window


Information Window for One Song

The Library lists all MP3, AIFF, and WAV audio tracks that your iTunes application knows about. You can sort the library by any of the visible columns by clicking on the column title. You can toggle the sort order by clicking the triangle to the right of the column title. You can display information about any song by selecting it and typing Command-I.

The Radio Tuner groups Internet radio stations by category. If you click once on the Radio Tuner source, the main window switches to this list of station categories. If you double-click the Radio Tuner source, a second iTunes window opens. You click on the triangle beside each category name to see the individual stations. iTunes can display station name, bit rate, status (active or inactive), and a descriptive comment. To play a station, just double-click its row in the main window, or highlight the station and click the play button. You can display (but not edit) information on a selected station by typing Command-I.


Radio Tuner Window

Playlists are customizable lists that can contain any combination of Library songs, Internet radio stations, and removable media (such as audio CDs). Command-N (or File>New Playlist) creates a new, untitled playlist. Double-clicking a playlist opens it in a new iTunes window. You can add songs to a selected playlist by pressing the “+” button, by dragging songs or folders of songs or an audio CD onto the main window when the playlist is active, or by dragging items such as radio stations from another iTunes window. As usual, you can sort playlists by any displayed column. Unlike the Library, you can reorder your playlists by dragging rows up or down. Information related to playlist items is fully editable, even for Internet radio stations. In a playlist you can link equalizer settings to songs or to radio stations.


Equalizer and Other Option Settings

You can give a group of items the same info and equalizer settings by selecting them (shift-click to extend a contiguous group, command-click to add discontinuous items) and typing Command-I.

The Visualizer displays an impressive repertoire of effects in the iTunes window or on your entire screen. When music has an easily identified beat, the Visualizer’s effects synchronize perfectly. Most of the Visualizer effects are interesting and attractive, although sometimes it displays a limited color palette.


iTunes Visualizer Medium-Size Window

AppleScript & iTunes

iTunes is fully scriptable, although Script Editor cannot load the iTunes AppleScript dictionary (use the freeware editor Smile to see the dictionary). You can completely control iTunes with scripts. You can create, edit, and organize playlists. You can also play radio stations or go to URLs specified in the script. Unfortunately, Apple provides no information on scripting iTunes in its documentation (see below).

Testing iTunes in the Real World

Ripping or Extracting with iTunes:


Ripping a CD with iTunes

You can set iTunes’ preferences to automatically extract or encode audio CD tracks as soon as the CD loads. iTunes places the songs into the iTunes Music folder by default, but you can tell it to use a different folder. The speed of extraction depends on your processor’s power and speed, and on the reading speed of your CD drive. With my system, average AIFF extraction speed was 4.4x when using the DVD/CD internal drive and nearly 13x when using the external CD-R/RW drive. I cannot explain the large difference, since the CD reading speeds differed only by 20% (20x for the DVD/CD and 24x for the CD-R/RW).

Burning CDs with iTunes

You can select one or more songs from your library or a playlist and burn them to a CD. iTunes 2 supports all Apple CD-R drives and most third-party internal and external CD burners, including those with USB and FireWire connections. I did not test this feature directly, since I prefer to use Toast 5 Titanium to burn CDs. You can drag songs from an iTunes window to the Toast window, and Toast will burn them in the track order you choose. Be warned that iTunes cannot burn a CD with absolutely no gaps between tracks. If you need continuous audio tracks, you will need to use Toast or some other software.

The Spirit of the Radio

I tested iTunes’ Radio Tuner features after updating the Internet radio stations in all 25 categories assigned by iTunes. There were 358 active streams. I attempted to play 75 streams (the 1st, 3rd, and last stream within each of the 25 categories). I was unable to connect to 33 active streams. Two streams connected but played only a few seconds of music before going silent. Only 40 of 75 “active” streams yielded successful Internet radio play. In about half of the connection failures, iTunes attempted to retrieve a playlist after failing to find a live stream. None of the playlists worked. I am not sure why iTunes cannot distinguish “active” streams from inactive ones. I suspect that Internet radio stations list hours of activity that they do not fulfill. Apple needs to get reliable information about Internet radio stations. They need to use or establish a service that verifies that stations listing themselves as active truly are broadcasting. (Note: These tests were conducted on Saturday, 11/10/01 at 9:30 AM and 2:05 PM EDT.)

Is iTunes 2 a CPU Hog?

Some users report that iTunes 2 uses a much higher percentage (20-35%) of CPU time than iTunes 1.1. However, I did not see this. On my system, iTunes 2 used only 5-15% of CPU time while playing in the background (equalizer setting did not seem to affect this). However, if the iTunes Visualizer was active, iTunes used 50-90% of available CPU time. Of course, it makes little sense to run the Visualizer unless iTunes is the foreground application, so the CPU-hogging isn’t much of a problem. I did test iTunes on a large monitor with about half the screen area devoted to iTunes’ Visualizer (medium setting). I used the remaining screen area to display foreground applications. In this situation, iTunes used only available CPU cycles. I experienced no delays or problems while iTunes played an Internet radio station. However, the frame rate of the Visualizer fell to 4-12 frames per second, depending on the foreground tasks. I did not experience the skips or delays reported by some users.

iTunes does hog available CPU resources while encoding sound files, but it encodes fairly rapidly. I achieved good results with both fixed and variable bit rate encoding using highest quality settings (320 kbps or 64-320 kpbs). I had read claims that encoding with LAME (an open license encoder) yielded better quality MP3 files than iTunes. However, the LAME encoder I used (DropMP3 1.0.6) encoded more slowly than iTunes even though it totally monopolized the CPU, and its MP3 files did not have better sound quality.

I experienced two types of foreground interruptions with iTunes. The first type of interruption occurred shortly after inserting a CD that had not previously been catalogued by iTunes. A brief interruption (1-2 seconds) occurs when iTunes connects with the CDDB online music database. The second type of interruption occurs when iTunes is set-up to automatically eject a CD after extracting tracks. This interruption lasts 3-5 seconds.


iTunes 2 doesn’t properly handle music CD lookups when the CD previously was catalogued by a different application. iTunes fails to display the Artist or the Album information with each track. This is strange, because iTunes has that information and uses it to create and name folders when extracting files from the CD. You can work around this problem by forcing iTunes to update the information (choose Get CD Track Names from the Advanced menu).

iTunes 2.0 and 2.0.1 incorrectly handle ID3 tags for MP3 files when double-byte Unicode characters are present. This problem was fixed in iTunes 2.0.2.

iTunes provides no way to correct errors in your local CDDB file (the CD Info.cidb file in your Preferences folder). For example, the Phil Collins “No Jacket Required” album had artist and album title switched. I corrected the artist and album information for all tracks, resubmitted the corrected information to the CDDB site, and then ejected and reloaded the CD. When iTunes extracted information from the CD, it still used “Phil Collins” as the album name and “No Jacket Required” as the artist.

Note: I did find a shareware program that lets you view and edit your “CD info.cidb” file. The program is iCDc 2.1 written by Anders Wählby. I was able to correct errors in my CD database using this $10 program.

I crashed iTunes 2 by doing the following: while iTunes 2 was encoding one AIFF file and playing another, I opened Preferences and clicked on the CD Burner tab. The music stopped playing, and the ball cursor spun for a long time without identifying my CD burner. When I closed the Preferences window, iTunes didn’t refresh the screen, even after closing and reopening the main window. iTunes also wouldn’t quit normally, and I had to issue a force quit command.

Another bug (carried over from iTunes 1) relates to MP3 files with variable bit rate (VBR) encoding created by an application other than iTunes. When iTunes loads the VBR MP3 file, the time information is completely wrong. Apparently, iTunes looks at the size of the MP3 file and at the lowest variable encoding bit rate speed to calculate the duration of the music. For example, a 7.6 minute song was listed as 42.6 minutes long by iTunes. This problem does not occur if iTunes does the VBR MP3 encoding.


iTunes comes with a brief Read Me text file and some Help Viewer information. Additional information is available at Apple’s iTunes Web site. There is no electronic or printed user manual for iTunes. There is no information at all on scripting iTunes. Apple should develop a comprehensive iTunes manual in HTML or PDF format.

Technical Support

With iTunes, you get technical support commensurate with what iTunes costs. Since it costs nothing, that’s how much support you can expect. Apple will probably provide some live telephone support if you recently purchased a Macintosh with iTunes preinstalled.


iTunes has a few bugs and omissions that Apple should rectify, and the lack of documentation is annoying. I also dislike the non-standard appearance and behavior of the iTunes window. However, I still give iTunes a “Very Nice” rating, and the latest version (2.0.2 at press time) is a significant improvement over iTunes 1.0. iTunes now lives up to Apple’s “Rip. Mix. Burn.” advertising campaign.

Reader Comments (108)

Elliot Jordan · December 4, 2001 - 10:07 EST #1
I've had iTunes 2.02 for OS X 10.1 for a few weeks now, and I love it! iTunes for OS 9 used to skip constantly when I dragged or resized windows, or used the Dock. iTunes for X completely eliminates skipping and is much faster-feeling than version 1. Great review!
Ron Stein · December 28, 2001 - 17:07 EST #2
This article was very helpful to me. Thanks for the effort. I think Apple needs to come out with a manual ASAP.
GumboSteve · January 24, 2002 - 19:18 EST #3
Good info. Thank the Mac saints that I got tired of hunting around Apple's site for an iTunes manual and found this page!
Rick Measham · March 1, 2002 - 03:55 EST #4
Doug Adams has a detailed guide to scripting iTunes. It includes info aimed at beginners and also detailed library descriptions for the rest of us. You can see it all here.
Reinaldo · April 3, 2002 - 13:19 EST #5
I would really like to find complete information about the iTunes visuals. I know there are some commands, but I would like to know how to avoid the Apple logo that appears randomly.

I'm a VJ and I can't use iTunes in my shows because of that.

Any comment? Write me.
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · April 3, 2002 - 16:51 EST #6
Reinaldo: You can use third-party visual effect plug-ins that do not display any corporate logos. I downloaded a free one called "Vortex" from Trinity Software. Others are available as freeware or shareware. (Try using a Google search with keywords "iTunes visual plug-in.")

I did use ResEdit to see if I could modify iTunes to not display the Apple logo when the visualizer starts. No luck, the logo is not a modifiable PICT resource.
Jean · July 21, 2002 - 11:26 EST #7
When I play a CD with iTunes (2.0.4 on OS 9.1) the vocals are often buried and the sound is muddy, even after fiddling with the equalizer. AppleCD Audio player, on the other hand, sounds sharp and well balanced, even without an equalizer.

I have the same problem with the MP3s I've ripped (high quality 192 kbps). Having an MP3 jukebox doesn't make much sense if you have to adjust each song to hear the vocals. I love iTunes in concept but I've gone back to AppleCD Audio player.

Has anyone else experienced sound quality problems or is it just me?
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · July 21, 2002 - 13:18 EST #8
Jean: My tests (using OS 9.2.2 and iTunes 2.0.3) indicate that iTunes should handle CD audio as well or better than AppleCD Audio Player. I suspect that your copy of iTunes is damaged. I recommend trashing iTunes and its preference folder and reinstalling it.
Ken Gruberman (ATPM Staff) · July 21, 2002 - 13:37 EST #9
Jean, go to the EDIT menu and down to PREFERENCES. Click the 2nd tab called EFFECTS. Find the checkbox for "Sound Enhancer" and UNCHECK it, then hit OK. I'm betting your music will now sound better. Some people like the Sound Enhancer but I personally find it makes the sound hollow and tinny sounding. Maybe you will too.
anonymous · August 26, 2002 - 16:26 EST #10
I'm beyond appalled that for $500, I don't get a manual for iTunes with my iPod and am forced to guess, play around, and search the internet. I bought one, but I won't buy more. Maybe my days of Mac loyalty should be history. Gee. Shame on Apple!
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · August 26, 2002 - 17:54 EST #11
To Anonymous: Apple, like almost every other computer and hardware vendor, reduces costs by not providing printed manuals. iTunes has a Help file that describes basic functions. Apple maintains an easy-to-find iTunes support page that has numerous "how-to" and troubleshooting articles.

Similar support exists for the iPod.

The lack of printed manuals has been a boon to authors. Bob LeVitus, a well-known writer about Macintosh computers, wrote "The Little iTunes Book" which is published by Peachpit Press. The book was published in 2001, but most of its information is still relevant.
anonymous · September 7, 2002 - 14:32 EST #12
Can we find iTunes 2 for download somewhere? If you have info, please help me. I need the second version of iTunes.
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · September 7, 2002 - 17:52 EST #13
You can download iTunes 2 either for Mac OS 9.x or for Mac OS X.
Ross Gunn III · December 2, 2002 - 01:35 EST #14
I'm not sure, but I think I erased a listing of the radio stations for the Talk/News iTunes category. Does anyone have that on their primary list of radio topics?

I would like to add some news to my list of radio stations, but most stations don't use Mac related products to broadcast their program. Any suggestions?
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · December 2, 2002 - 19:33 EST #15
Mr. Gunn: You can update the list of radio stations by selecting the "Talk/Spoken Word" item in iTunes and clicking the Refresh button. However, I only found 7 stations.

You can play non-listed radio stations by entering their URLs into the Open Stream… window (under the Advanced menu). However, I had little luck with this since most radio stations were in RealAudio or Windows Media Player formats. For now, if you want a greater variety of talk radio stations, you will need to use RealAudio. RealAudio can maintain lists of favorite stations.

The declining number of stations has two causes: Fewer stations broadcasting in iTunes-compatible formats and fewer Internet radio stations altogether due to the ridiculous royalty fee schedule set by the Library of Congress.
anonymous · December 3, 2002 - 18:27 EST #16
I just wanted to say a big "thank you!" to Lee Bennett for the link to iTunes 2. Being stuck with OS 9 for now, I was stumped to only find iTunes 3 (OS X only) on Apple's site. Mr. Bennett's link was a life saver. :-)
Scott · January 2, 2003 - 20:50 EST #17
Can anyone help me with this question? I have sent away for an iPod and a FireWire card and AC Adapter (I have a G3 PowerBook). While I am waiting, I wanted to rip my CDs with iTunes so that, when I get the iPod and the iTunes 2 CD-ROM, I can put my iPod to use right away. Does anyone know how iTunes 2 uses MP3 files and lists from iTunes 1? Will iTunes 2 automatically transfer all my files from iTunes 1? Is there anything I need to do? Also, does anyone have any hints or warnings about using an iPod with a FireWire card? It seems that it should work fine, but...

Thanks for this very helpful web page!!!
anonymous · January 2, 2003 - 23:33 EST #18
I'd sure like to know if it is possible to use iTunes on a Beige G3 that does not have a built-in USB port. If it possible, what is the trick? (I read that ATPM staffers were able to get it to work.)

I have a Firewire PC Card installed and was hoping that I could use the new iPod - if I can get iTunes to work on my Beige G3? Thanks.

Chris Lawson (ATPM Staff) · January 3, 2003 - 01:23 EST #19
Scott: there wasn't any problem when I installed iTunes 2 over iTunes 1 on my Wallstreet. Everything converted up just perfectly. The same goes for the upgrade from iTunes 2 to iTunes 3 on OS X on both my Wallstreet and TiBook.

Fuzzy: iTunes should work just fine on any Mac running OS 9 whether or not it has a FireWire port (as my Wallstreet certainly didn't have one, and I recall using it to manage my MP3s on there just fine). Perhaps your problem is that you don't have OS 9 installed.

Note that your FireWire card must provide power to the bus in order for the iPod to fully work properly, but even without bus power you should be able to sync it (if not charge it) just fine.

CC · January 3, 2003 - 14:03 EST #20
Chris: I am running OS 9 but I haven't tried using iTunes because the system repuirements say you have to have a built-in USB port. I don't know why that is, especially when the iPod uses Firewire, Are you using it without a built-in USB port? I do not have a USB port, built-in or otherwise. Thanks,
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · January 3, 2003 - 17:22 EST #21
CC: You can use iTunes 1 or 2 with most Macs running OS 9. I used both of them on my beige G3 without problems.
Scott · January 4, 2003 - 19:02 EST #22
Thanks for your input! I have another question. I have very little memory capacity in my G3 PowerBook, but I wanted to get all of my CDs into my massive 10GB iPod. Can anyone tell me if the following will work? What I was planning on doing is: rip as many CDs as would fit in my G3's hard drive; then, transfer them to the iPod; then erase those songs from my G3; and then rip some more and transfer them to the iPod. Repeat and repeat until all my CDs are in the iPod.

My main question involves the "sync" and "update" feautres of the iPod. Does the synchronize feature mean that the iPod will get rid of files if it doesn't find them on the Mac (in the iTunes program), or will it attempt to ADD only new songs/files to the iPod? To quote from an ATPM page: "every time you connect the iPod to your computer, it will attempt to synchronize its music collection with your Mac." My problem: my Mac will no longer contain some of the files that I want in the iPod. Will it get rid of them? If this is indeed the case, is there any way around this, besides choosing to load the songs into the iPod manually and individually?

Thanks so much for your help!
anonymous · January 7, 2003 - 10:25 EST #23
Yes, another thank you to Lee Bennett for the iTunes 2 link.

Apple's web site certainly leaves a lot to be desired. It is very hard to find anything of use there.
C.C. · January 7, 2003 - 15:49 EST #24
Thank you everyone for your comments. I've installed iTunes and it is working fine except for the iTunes help, but the program seems self explanatory so it is not really a problem.

I have another question: Which software makes "MP3 audio" CDs that can be played by MP3 players and CD players that have the capabilities of playing MP3s?


Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · January 7, 2003 - 17:06 EST #25
C.C. - While Toast is ideal, you can use virtually any software. In Toast, just burn an MP3 disc. iTunes also has an MP3 disc function. If you use any other software, if there's no setting for MP3 disc, just set it for ISO 9660.
Don Freeman · January 21, 2003 - 05:28 EST #26
I'm a broadcaster--Rockabilly Radio under iTunes' Americana classification. My question is, since my broadcast provider, Live365, which is also the provider for many other iTunes stations, has elected to go with a "You must visit the Live365 site and register to listen policy," does anyone know what kind of impact this will have on iTunes users trying to listen? We have been assured that listeners will have the option of using 3rd party players after visiting the site and registering, but my fear is that our broadcast IP addresses in iTunes will no longer work. Any comments would be appreciated.
Heino · January 22, 2003 - 10:36 EST #27
Thanks for a helpful web page. Can anyone help with moving a Library from iTunes to the external hard drive? I have an external hard drive with a firewire connection to my iMac. I want to put all my CDs on the hard drive. I have most of it done, but now the problem is that each time I play the CD, it loads it in the iTunes library on the internal hard drive. This defeats the purpose of having the external drive. How can I avoid this? There may be someone in the "iTunes world" who has solved this problem. I would love to hear from you. Thanks.

Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · January 22, 2003 - 14:45 EST #28
Heino: iTunes can play songs located on any connected drive. I have MP3 music files on a non-startup internal drive and iTunes-extracted AIFF files on an external Firewire drive. iTunes put all of them in its library.

If you want iTunes to forget an old Music folder location, you have to delete the iTunes Music Library file (located in the iTunes folder within the Documents folder). Then, launch iTunes and select Add to Library... from the File menu. Navigate to the desired music folder and iTunes will read all the music files and add them to its library. You can do this for as many music folders as you have.

If you want to use a different folder (instead of the default location of :Documents:iTunes:iTunes Music) for storing music files extracted from audio CDs by iTunes, then choose Preferences... from the Edit menu and click on the Advanced tab. Click the Change... button to select the music folder on your external hard drive.
Evan Trent (ATPM Staff) · January 30, 2003 - 00:40 EST #29
Don - I really have no clue, but two guesses as to what might be going on.

  1. When you register, you get a cookie which your web browser then uses to handshake with the site for future communication, thus bypassing the registration process and going directly to streaming audio. This will, naturally, not work in iTunes.

  2. When you register, your IP address is put on file as a valid
    registered address. This would work in iTunes, but if you have
    anything but a static IP, this system won't work very well for obvious reasons. I don't know if anybody would really be that stupid as to use an IP address-based system for identification purposes when so many people now are using an ISP with DHCP, but you never know.

It could also be something totally different from either of the above.
Paul Story · February 13, 2003 - 01:13 EST #30
Thanks so much for the helpful info. I don't have OS X, so I was looking for an older version of iTunes and found just what I was looking for here! I'm so grateful. Now I can start this "intenet music" thing I hear everyone talking about. I will definitely return to this site!
Mike Hardesty · February 20, 2003 - 13:22 EST #31
Help! This site seems to be the one to help solve this problem. I have been running iTunes 1.1 on our iMac (OS 9.2) with no problems until recently. I had a hard drive problem and had to re-format it. I put the data and applications back with no problem. (I used a system I had previously put onto CD, from our iMac, that worked.) I had installed Stuffit Deluxe 6 to help segment a huge file that Tech Tool Pro had created while trying to fix the hard drive. I had also tried to install Adobe Distiller/Exchange from an incomplete backup CD I'd made of the original. I downloaded iTunes 2.0.4 for OS 9 and installed it. Now, iTunes still freezes just after I click "agree" in the license window. It locks up and I have to force-quit it. I teach music and need this to work. What do I do when a new system, new extensions, and new iTunes won't cut it? Thanks!
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · February 20, 2003 - 16:14 EST #32
Mike: I don't think this is an iTunes issue, although it's possible that the file you downloaded is corrupt. I recommend that you download and try to install a new copy of iTunes.

If that doesn't work, then the problem might be damage in one of the files you reinstalled. It could be a System-related file or a third-party extension. I would first run Disk First Aid or one of the commercial utility programs (Norton Disk Doctor, Tech Tools Pro, Disk Warrier, etc.) to find problems. If you get a clean bill of health, then try installing iTunes with only Apple extensions active.

If those steps don't work, then you may need to do a clean install of OS 9. Good luck!
Don · May 31, 2003 - 01:20 EST #33
Is there any way to find iTunes version 2 or 3 for download? I don't want to go to OS X. I'm using OS 9.2 on my iMac now, and the iTunes web site only has iTunes4. Thanks!
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · May 31, 2003 - 08:27 EST #34

You can get iTunes 2.0.4 from Apple's Support Downloads Web pages.

iTunes 3 and 4 both require OS X, so 2.0.4 is the last version available for those of us hanging on to OS 9.
Janet · August 22, 2003 - 14:53 EST #35
I have a Wallstreet PowerBook (no USB--does that effect iTunes?) running OS 9.2.2. I tried to install both iTunes 2.0.2 and 2.0.4 and it didn't work out.

In the first case, the installation failed, mumbling something about "checksum is invalid."

In the second case, it looked as though it would work, but then it said that I have to have a US-American version of Mac OS 9 to install the English version of iTunes 2.0.4. I have a German one.

What can I do?

Is there a page where one finds German versions fitting to my German OS 9, or can I do something so that it will install the available English version anyway?


Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · August 22, 2003 - 15:39 EST #36
Janet - all available language versions of iTunes 2.0.4 are available on the Support Downloads page that Gregory pointed to in the comment that immediately preceded yours.
Janet · August 24, 2003 - 15:28 EST #37
I found it! However, the problem remains. I successfully installed iTunes 2.0.4, but it will not import or convert any audio CD tracks. The import button is not highlighted and the convert command responds (free translation) "your computer can't read digital audio data converted from the internal audio CD. The conversion of digital audio data was deactivated."


Can I manipulate something so that the nonexistent USB port isn't a problem? I tried to load a new version of Authoring Support that promised it would help fix my problem, but it wouldn't install without the integrated USB port.


John Shelley · September 14, 2003 - 11:30 EST #38
This may seem like an obvious question, but can you add radio stations to iTunes? If so, how?

I've been trying to access several UK radio stations through their web sites directly, but am having a few problems with some, especially those that specify WMP to hear them. I was wondering if I'd have any better luck using iTunes, but I've no idea how to add stations to the library. Any help greatly appreciated.
Neil Campbell · September 15, 2003 - 01:14 EST #39
What is System Error Type 10?
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · September 15, 2003 - 04:10 EST #40
John - to my knowledge, iTunes does not play Windows Media Player files. As for the radio stations, compatible streams can be downloaded as playlist files. These can then be dragged into iTunes. I'm not positive how to determine if a download is a compatible playlist file, but I can tell you that the .pls files you get when you click a Tune In link on Shoutcast are compatible. Neil - a web search turned up the answer. As for exactly what it means—uh, someone else will have to interpret. ID=09 and ID=10 Line 1010 and 1111 Trap
There are many routines in the Macintosh ROM that can be called by placing instructions in a program that aren't in the 68000's vocabulary. When the 68000 encounters such an instruction, it looks it up in the instruction table. This table gives the location of routines paired with each instruction. If it finds an entry in the table for the instruction, it branches to the routine. If there's no entry for the instruction, you see one of these errors.
Malcolm · October 12, 2003 - 15:47 EST #41
Does anyone have any ideas why I can update song titles using CDDB perfectly using iTunes 1 but, when using version 2, the same operation always returns "details not found" or some such message.

This is on OS 9.2.

Thanks, in advance.

Francesco Marchini · January 28, 2004 - 12:57 EST #42
Where can I download iTunes 2?
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · January 28, 2004 - 14:27 EST #43
Francesco - scroll up the comments. You'll find that we've already answered this question.
David · February 11, 2004 - 15:28 EST #44
For some reason, my iTunes 2 on OS 9.2 absolutely will not access CDDB. When I click Get CD Info, nothing happens. Any ideas?
Gregory Tetrault (ATPM Staff) · February 12, 2004 - 21:26 EST #45
I had no problem getting CD track info from or sending track info to CDDB from iTunes 2.0.4 using OS 9.2.2. Perhaps there was a temporary glitch.
Judy Groves · August 15, 2004 - 15:59 EST #46
I have an itunes library stored on an external hard drive linked to my old PC. I have now switched to a Mac and want to transfer my itunes music library to my new iMac. But, the mac wants to initialize the portable hard drive which will wipe it. Ideas please? I desperately don't want to have to re-record all those songs.
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · August 15, 2004 - 17:17 EST #47
Judy - I, too, have had difficulty with hard drives formatted on one platform and trying to read them on another. I don't fully understand why a Mac is able to read a PC-formatted CD-ROM, Zip disk, or floppy (on Macs that still have floppy drives); but not be able to read a PC-formatted external hard drive connected via FireWire. Makes no sense.

I imagine someone is going to make a suggestion to make the drive readable on your Mac. For now, though, my solution would be to connect the drive to a PC that can read it and connect the Mac and PC to a network and send the files over via file sharing.
John Adams · December 17, 2004 - 17:14 EST #48
In response to Michael Frasier (Aug 10/04) who was getting grief from iTunes due to the mysterious error -7932. I've been plagued with exactly the same problem -- no problem burning for ages, then all of a sudden I'm only able to burn a readable disc once in every few million tries...and the only lead iTunes spits out is "error -7932".

So, here's something I found at another site that hints at, if not a solution, at least an explanation. Hope it helps:

" When I used soundjam for playing mp3's the cute little eye candy things like the equalizer readout in the display would'nt bounce up and down, it wouldn't work, unless the mp3 was created by soundjam. The CD that I tried to dreate had two songs that were imported by iTunes into iTunes mp3 format and three mp3's from the web and soundjam. The disc wouldn't burn.
HOWEVER!!! When I Isolated the two iTunes tracks two its own folder and burned them, it worked. I then tried to burn an mp3 from soundjam by itself, it gave me the error -7932.

I think the problem is, unless its an iTunes created mp3. You can't burn it. Now I have to figure out how to import all mp3's into iTunes so it converts it to iTunes format. This has nothing to do with the ability to play it, just burn it. Same thing with Soundjam. I could play any mp3 but unless I converted it, the display equalizer readout (whatever its called) and the crazy design plugin thingy would not work. Maybe its the same case..."

Any ideas out there?
Tony Webb · January 1, 2005 - 11:59 EST #49
I bought my daughter a Digitalway MP10 mp3 player for Christmas, as it was about the only mp3 player that would still work with my iMac G3 running OS 9.2. I've installed the software that came with the player and iTunes recognizes it when it's plugged into the USB port. Being something of a techno-peasant, I assume that I do the usual drag-and-drop business with the music I want to load onto the player, but this is where iTunes 2.0.4 freezes up completely leading to a re-start as the only solution. I would appreciate any help in sorting this out, in order to offset the wrath of a 15 year old without music.
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · January 1, 2005 - 16:31 EST #50
Tony - iTunes does not officially support any device other than the iPod, and my understanding what that no version of iTunes prior to 4 supported iPods. I'm curious as to exactly what you mean when you say your copy of iTunes 2 "recognizes" the player, unless it's seeing it as a mounted volume from which it can import songs.

Having said that, however, current versions of iTunes don't exactly drag-and-drop files into the iPod. They're synced in, and they are located in a hidden folder.

Bottom line is, I can't fathom any scenario where you'll get iTunes to synchronize music with anything other than an iPod nor how you'd get iTunes version 2 or 3 to synchronize with anything at all.
Atari · February 10, 2005 - 16:23 EST #51
I am having the same problem with iTunes, the CD burning failed because an unknown error occured (-7932) error message. Anyone with answers, please contact me at my email address.

Atari · February 10, 2005 - 16:24 EST #52
Idea. Find something called Infodrop or something and change the creator code so that it thinks that the file was created with iTunes? Will try tonight after jobby job.
malcolm m · February 27, 2005 - 01:02 EST #53
is it possible to burn to an iomega 16x10x40 cd-rw using itunes2.0.4. I have a beige g3 running os9.2 with usb adapter card. I read atpm staff was successful but when I hit burn icon I get "authoring support not found...". The itunes installer says I have to download the authoring support files but, surprise, when I go to apple I can find nothing....any help would be greatly appreciated as the Hotburn software which came with the burner is horrible.

I got the "got the authoring support not found" to go away however now when I go in itunes to prefernces:cd burning I get "no supported cd burners found" and when I hit the burn icon in the itunes interface I get "cd burner or software not found"....any suggestions? Is there any way to get support for this burner?
anonymous · April 13, 2005 - 20:44 EST #54
I was just wondering... How exactly would an iPod work with an external hard drive?
ATPM Staff · April 13, 2005 - 21:20 EST #55
Mr. Anonymous - uhm, we're not exactly sure what you mean. If you're referring to the comments above about moving an iTunes library to an external hard drive, this has nothing to do with the iPod. Those comments simply discuss modifying where iTunes works with its data. It will still sync its library with the iPod regardless whether the library is on an internal or external hard drive.
Suz H · April 16, 2005 - 14:18 EST #56
I have 7 songs in a play list that I would like to stream together as one song (run one after another) so I can insert the song at the beginning of a Power Point Presentation with one single insert, avoiding the need to determine where to place each song separately so that they do not overlap or leave a large gap of time without a song playing. I've been divisding up the number of seconds for each song and then based on the time each slide is to stay on the screen before transitioning to the next slide spearately inserting the song. Is there a way to take 7 songs and combine them so they appear as one one song (it's okay if there are a couple of seconds between songs)?
ATPM Staff · April 16, 2005 - 14:58 EST #57
Suz - not in iTunes. But with Quicktime Player (it might require the pro version, but I'm not sure) you can open the first song and run the playhead to the very end, then open a second song, select all, copy, go back to the first song, and paste. Continue this for every song you want to tack on to the end. After you've pasted the last song, select Export and save it to a new file in the desired format.
darren sprigg · May 1, 2005 - 13:23 EST #58
I have a few hundred songs stored in itunes and would like to copy them in mp3 format to a blank cdr disk.
I have dragged and dropped what albums i want to burn but when i click on the burn button it keeps saying 'none of these items in the playlist can be burned to disk..?
Am i being dumb or is it not possible to copy stored mp3 tracks from the itunes library directly to blank cdr, is there any download or settings which can resolve this problem?
thanks in advance
ATPM Staff · May 1, 2005 - 15:13 EST #59
Darren - can you confirm that any or all of the tracks you are attempting to burn are actually MP3s and not AACs? If you're talking about tracks you've ripped from CD yourself, iTunes uses the AAC format by default. If you never changed it, than you have a library full of AAC files, not MP3s. Same goes for iTunes Music Store purchases, only those are protected AACs.

When you select the MP3 CD option in iTunes' preference tab for Burning, any tracks that are not MP3s are skipped. If all the tracks in your playlist are AAC, the error message you are seeing would occur.

You can select Data CD instead of MP3 CD to burn the files no matter what format they are in. This is for backup purposes and, obviously, backed up AAC files will not play in portable CD players that support MP3 files.
Angelo Lucero · June 20, 2005 - 23:21 EST #60
Hi im running on a mac os 9, and i have an mini ipod that i already have about 746 songs on it. I used my windows xp computer that i dont have anymore because i sold it. I found online that to use this ipod with this old mac os 9 that i have to download itunes 2.02. I've been looking everywhere for somewhere to download and still havent found nothing. If someone can help me find a place i can download this program it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
ATPM Staff · June 21, 2005 - 00:46 EST #61
Angelo - encourages readers to at least skim prior comments before posting your own. You'll find a link to iTunes version 2 up above.

Be advised, iTunes 2 does not support the iPod. iTunes 3 and 4 were both only released for Mac OS X.
levy · June 26, 2005 - 09:54 EST #62
I m referring to the answer you have given to darren sprigg on May 01, 2005. I have the same problem: "none of the items in this playlist can be burned to disc" I keep getting this message when I tried to make cd s from my playlists.

And I dont think your reply is accurate as it does not work for me.

I searched through previous comments and solutions offered.
One assumption (and your reply) was that people had AAC format songs and they can not be coppied to mp3 disc. It was explicitly stated or in some cases implied that you can make audio cds or data cds.
In my case, those did not work either and I could not make either audio, or mp3 or data cds from my playlists.
Some of the playlists that did not work did not contain any other file type other than mp3 anyway.

Other discussion going on is about making multiple copies of a list, and about copying protected music. Some of the lists I made can be burned to a disc, while others can not. the distinction is not whether they are mp3 or m4a or so.

could you please find an answer to this: with itunes, How can we make mp3 cds, to play our music on our car or other stereo.

you can refer other discussions about this topic:
Items In Playlist Cannot Be Burned :
Trev · July 29, 2005 - 16:13 EST #63
I am having a very strange problem importing my CDs into iTunes. I put the CD in the drive, and iTunes recognizes the CD. It then pulls up the track list from the Internet database, and it looks like it is ripping each of the tracks from the CD onto the hard drive. But the process goes much too fast, and then when I go to look at the tracks on the hard drive (through iTunes), all of the tracks are listed, but with a track time of 0:00. Of course, when I go to look at the actual file that was copied onto the hard disk it is way too small (all of the files are 51KB). I have tried everything I can think of, but I can't fix this problem. (I know that the CD drive is fine, because when I try to rip the CD using another software program—like Windows Media Player—it rips just fine.) Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
ATPM Staff · July 29, 2005 - 18:04 EST #64
Trev - in your iTunes preferences, what settings are you currently using in the "Importing" section? Also, in the "Advanced" section, is the checkbox for "Copy files to iTunes Music folder..." checked or unchecked?
Phil Welch · September 11, 2005 - 16:21 EST #65
I have the same problem as Trev.
Seems to have occurred with the new version of iTunes.
I get the first few seconds of each track adn the files are between 57 and 204 kb (or 6 to 13 seconds)

Media player also works fine.

Any ideas.
Phil Welch · September 12, 2005 - 14:03 EST #66
I have fixed.
Answer: Downgrade to version 4!

eric clin · September 16, 2005 - 11:58 EST #67
is it possible to connect ipod 20 G (Click wheel 2004/07) on mac OS 9.2 and itunes 2?
Thank you
ATPM Staff · September 16, 2005 - 12:54 EST #68
Eric - scroll up to our June 21 comment post. Your question has already been answered.
Ruth Whitworth · October 22, 2005 - 10:27 EST #69
I have a G3 Powerbook (Lombard I think) with Mac OS 9.2 and can't get my iPod shuffle to work, play the music I am drag and drop into it from iTunes 2.0.4. I have charged it up via my usb port, so that's not the problem.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

best wishes Ruth
ATPM Staff · October 22, 2005 - 22:05 EST #70
Ruth - you may not be able to use the iPod shuffle with your current configuration. specifications indicate that the iPod shuffle needs Mac OS X 10.2.8 or 10.3.4, with 10.3.6 or later recommended. The USB port may charge the iPod and it may mount as a volume, but it requires newer versions of iTunes to sync music—versions that only run on Mac OS X mentioned above.
mike · October 23, 2005 - 02:59 EST #71
Somebody had the same problem I have......My itunes will only import the first few seconds of the songs...I tried what you had suggested to Trev...still having problems...I did notice that another user had solved the problems by downgrading to version 4...well how do I do that..please help..ASAP I want my music
Sally · November 22, 2005 - 10:07 EST #72
I have the same problem as Mike and Trev. I upgraded iTunes from the website but still cannot import anymore than ten seconds of each track. I'm on version 6 now and can't solve the issue. Any ideas??
robert peluso · November 22, 2005 - 19:17 EST #73
I have windows hp and the new ipod . I cannot import song titles.When I click the advanced button to go cet the titles I get this message. Cddb error http processing error. Apple support is of no help????
ATPM Staff · November 22, 2005 - 22:09 EST #74
Robert - what album(s) are you attempting to retrieve information for? If you are not dealing with mainstream albums, it's at least possible that Gracenote simply doesn't have information for that album....or perhaps there are some temporary communication problems problems with the CDDB server and you should try again.
Tom Hart · November 27, 2005 - 09:53 EST #75
I have the same issue as Robert Peluso. I cannot import song titles. I receive the message "CDDB Error: HTTP Processing Error". I am using mainstream CDs and have tried many, many popular ones. Also, I am able to import songs on a different PC. I have compared all the internet options settings on both PCs and they are the same. I am running Windows XP Professional and using iTunes version 6. Can someone help me? Thanks!
ATPM Staff · November 27, 2005 - 21:30 EST #76
if a reader wishes to chime in with help about these HTTP Processing Errors, that's fine. Here among us ATPM staff, we focus solely on the Macintosh platform and have no assistance available for Windows issues.

For what it's worth, I regularly import both popular and obscure, out of print albums (two OOPs just tonight) and have no trouble retrieving CDDB information.
steve blair · December 1, 2005 - 00:04 EST #77
There is a discussion of these CDDB errors on the apple site at:

I had the same problem. I use pop-up blocking software called AdSubtract, and when I disabled it, I was able to get all the info from CDDB without problems.

Tom Hart · December 4, 2005 - 12:58 EST #78
Steve Blair: It worked! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I also use AdSubstract and when I disabled it Gracenote worked great!!!

tommy · December 10, 2005 - 13:42 EST #79
i'd like to know how to burn a cd from itunes with the equalizer settings of my choice. can i somehow crank up the treble or bass on a song so that it burns that way and then plays that way on some other cd player?

i have itunes6 with osX
ATPM Staff · December 10, 2005 - 23:37 EST #80
Tommy - to the best of our knowledge, iTunes' EQ settings only affect playback. Audio CDs burned in iTunes always reflect the original file.
Cthulhubob · December 18, 2005 - 13:53 EST #81
iTunes worked fine when I first installed, but since then the lead vocals are muted on everything played through itunes and I can't find the culprit. Any ideas?
Dod · December 22, 2005 - 13:58 EST #82
I use to be able to burn CDs without any problems but now I get the following error message - "CD Burner or Software Not Found". Does anyone have a simple fix?
PC · January 4, 2006 - 06:56 EST #83
Re only getting first few seconds of CD tracks ripped to iTunes - can't find any comments from ATPM Staff and therfore assume it can't be fixed. I now rip mine using the far superior Windows Media Player. Time to get your act together you Apple boys and girls.
ATPM Staff · January 4, 2006 - 09:58 EST #84
PC - if an ATPM staff member doesn't reply, it means none of them have any useful information to provide. It does not mean that comments go unread or that it can't be fixed.

Having said that, it seems fairly certain that everyone who has mentioned this problem is having it on a Windows-based machine. Since ATPM is a Macintosh forum and most staff members have little to no knowledge of Windows issues (or simply choose not to deal with them), it stands to reason no one has been able to reply to this issue. Normally, we don't retain Windows-related comments, but since this issue is about Apple's product, iTunes, for Windows, we've let the comments remain for the possibility that another reader may come across them and have some input for a possible solution.

We're sorry you're having trouble and regret none of us have been able to solve it. But remember that ATPM is, primarily, an opinion/editorial/review electronic magazine. Any support we can offer is limited to our staff's knowledge. We're not necessarily experts on every product we review. And this comments section is intended for reader discussion more-so than product support.
Rafael Gessouroun · January 5, 2006 - 10:46 EST #85
Well, I searched and I couldn't find how to split an iTunes window. It used to be that on top I had genre, artist and album, and underneath I had the titles of the songs of the album I chose to display.

All of a sudden, when displaying the library the top of the window disappeared and I had all the songs in the library listed. I did not cause it consciously.

I went to another playlist I had created - and the window was still split. I started playing around with it and at the split line I saw a hand like Adobe Reader has. I grabbed the split with the hand and pushed it upwards which adjusted both windows vertically. Well, I went too far - on purpose - and lost that split too. Now copying files from the library to a playlist is a lot harder because I can't just copy an album.

Can you guys help?
ATPM Staff · January 5, 2006 - 11:38 EST #86
Rafael - you can restore the genre/artist/album browser by clicking the Browse button in the upper right corner of the iTunes window.
Jamie S. · January 9, 2006 - 20:28 EST #87
I too am having trouble getting song titles when I import my CDs via iTunes. However, I do not have AdSubtract on my computer. I have a new iMac G5, haved tried popular CDS, looked in my Advance Import Preferences...Any suggestions?

Many thanks.
Michelle · January 10, 2006 - 13:45 EST #88
ITunes worked great.....once.

Every time after that, I have had a series of errors and am no longer able to burn CDs. The online support is basically worthless. I plan to delete this program and never use it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris S · February 5, 2006 - 12:34 EST #89
Did anyone ever figure out the problem with importing just the first few seconds? This is the only place I've found reference to it, but it seems a lot of people are having the same problem.

ATPM Staff · February 5, 2006 - 12:56 EST #90
Chris - we're leaving the posted comments asking about the problem so perhaps someone else can answer, but the ATPM staff are somewhat slim on possible answers since, as best we can tell, it's an issue with the Windows version of iTunes. We haven't (yet) identified anyone experiencing this problem on a Macintosh which is the only platform we directly attempt to assist with.
John Sexton · February 28, 2006 - 17:11 EST #91
I can save CDs onto my iTunes. I can then drag and drop them, and get them to my iPod. However, if I download songs from Limewire they autmatically show up in iTunes, but I can't do anything with them. On the info they are listed as remote, the ones from the cds aren't labelled like this. I can't move the remote ones, I can't download them to my iPod. Can anyone tell me how to fix this please?
ATPM Staff · February 28, 2006 - 19:36 EST #92
John - it sounds as if you're dragging a remote playlist link into iTunes which is why it won't go to the iPod. A song has to be in a compatible format physically within the iTunes library before it'll transfer to an iPod.

P.S. - obligatory message must be included here since you refer to using Limewire ... don't steal music.
Hugh Lloyd · March 9, 2006 - 18:02 EST #93
Regarding "CDDB Error: HTTP Processing Error" posted by Tom Hart and Rob peluso in November 2005. I've found that if you have a firewall such as Norton Internet security, you cannot get CD names, even if you have given Itunes permission to access the Internet. Temporarily disable your firewall, then get CD Track Names on Itunes. It should work! Looks likes Itunes and Nortons have to look at their APIs in the PC environ...
rob ryan · April 1, 2006 - 19:44 EST #94
I have been getting the "CDDB Error: HTTP Processing Error" as well, and I tried folowing Hugh Lloyd's advice with disabling the personal firewall and I still get the same error. I have disabled all firewalls and popup stoppers including that of Windows. I have ran itunes in the past and never got that error until a week ago, and I have not changed anything until today when I updated itunes to the latest version, thinking that would stop it. I am certain the cd's in the CDDB because I tried using Winamp to get track names and it worked just fine, with and without firewalls and popup stoppers. So...not sure what the fix is for this. I am going to try and enter the information from Winamp, to itunes. I used to be a mac fanatic now I am just a computer addict.
Riley Smith · May 25, 2006 - 18:57 EST #95
I made a playlist for my friends so I could burn them a cd but when I put in the empty cd and clicked 'burn', it said "disc burner or software not found..." and I cant burn it. What do I do?
ATPM Staff · May 25, 2006 - 23:03 EST #96
Riley - first, we must insert the obligatory message that it is illegal to share copyrighted music. You are allowed to rip CDs to your iTunes and burn custom mix CDs for your own use, but not to give those CDs away to other people, unless you have permission or authority over each song on the CD.

With that in mind, are you using a Macintosh or Windows machine? If Windows, we're not going to have much help to offer. If it's a Macintosh, are you using the built-in CD burner that originally came with your machine or an external burner? Are you sure you have a CD burner and not just a CD ROM?
Lander · June 12, 2006 - 14:56 EST #97
(Editor's Note: this comment pertains to the Windows version of iTunes. While ATPM is a venue that generally only discusses Macintosh issues, we've opted to let this comment stand because of its benefit to Windows iTunes users.)

If you like I just have switched from WMP to iTunes you may want to find a way to import your ratings and play counts into iTunes. I wrote a little program that does just that. You can find it for download at (its 100% free).
Matthew · June 20, 2006 - 03:19 EST #98
I changed a bunch of track genres in my iTunes, but am not happy with the result. Is there any way that I can revert those tracks back to the default genres assigned by iTunes?
ATPM Staff · June 20, 2006 - 09:01 EST #99
Matthew - you can change multiple items at once by selecting them all then bringing up the Get Info window which will look a little different than the Get Info window you normally see for just one track.

But no, I'm pretty sure there's no way to revert to previous genres unless you happened to have a current backup of your iTunes library file.
Chris #2 · December 12, 2006 - 19:05 EST #100
Okay, I've perused this article for the better part of an hour now, and am a bit concerned (or maybe just confuzzled)...

Certain posts in this thread seem to imply that any version of iTunes earlier than 4 is iPod incompatible.

Now, unless Rod Serling is standing nearby, this can't be correct; I've just read an old review which states that "iTunes 2.0.3 offers greater control when synchronizing iTunes with the iPod by transferring only the checked songs in your library," etc.

Anyway, my question is as follows: Should I even bother buying an iPod, given the configuration I'm currently using? Should I seek out some older model or (*shudder*) a non-Apple equivalent? I use a G3 iMac (333) which is running OS 9.2.2 and iTunes v2.0.3.

I have nearly 15 gigs of music in my iTunes library (all of which is stored on an external USB drive). I've been "stockpiling" my music lately with the hope of transferring it all into a little portable device, but now... Is this a fool's errand, or what?

Many thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · December 12, 2006 - 19:45 EST #101
Chris - I'd like to see a link to this "old review" that talks about iTunes 2 and iPods. I, for one, don't believe it. Simply put, I don't know that any version of iTunes prior to 4 had the code to even know how to communicate with iPods.

If that's true, and you can't get past iTunes 2, then an iPod would be useless to you.
Chris Again · December 12, 2006 - 21:26 EST #102
Lee -- With pleasure. A quick Googling has turned up several. For good measure, I've included an excerpt from the "Read Me" file which accompanied 2.0.3. To wit:

Here's a quote from Macworld's review of iTunes 2.0 (taken from a cached version on Google; the original article is no longer on Macworld's server):

"Amidst the hubbub surrounding Apple's release of the iPod, Apple released version 2.0.3 of its iTunes audio program, adding the support necessary for transferring files to the portable player."

Here's another that actually quotes the blurb from the Mac OS Software Update panel:


iTunes 2.0.3 Is Out

"iTunes for Mac OS X lets you create and organize your own personal digital music library. The second generation of iTunes adds powerful new tools that help enhance your listening experience, burns MP3 data CDs, and provides support for Apple's iPod, offering unprecedented music portability. This version also improves overall stability and performance."

The "Read Me" file (dated December 3, 2001) from my iTunes 2.0.3 folder:

What's New in iTunes 2.0.3

"iTunes 2.0.3 offers greater control when synchronizing iTunes with the iPod by transferring only the checked songs in your library and playlists to your iPod. This version also adds support for the Rio One MP3 player from SONICblue, a tool for correcting improperly encoded Unicode tags, and improved stability and performance."

In other words, iPod functionality was implemented 5 years ago. My concern is whether the newer iPods with greater capacity will be able to interface with my dated software. Any ideas?
Chris Again Again · December 12, 2006 - 21:46 EST #103
Lee, wait a minute... I'm trying not to laugh too hard at the pair of us right now...

I guess I could have saved myself some time from Googling by simply going back to the top of this very page, which (on my browser, at least) contains an "old review" of iTunes 2.0.2.

Scroll up and you'll see the following:

"Apple Computer released iTunes 2 in November, in conjunction with the arrival of the new iPod portable FireWire music player. The iTunes application can perform a variety of audio-related tasks: play Internet radio stations, play MP3 files over the Internet (static and streaming), play stored MP3 files, convert among digital audio formats (MP3, AIFF, WAV), extract audio tracks from CDs, look up information about audio CDs using CDDB on the Internet, burn audio CDs in AIFF or MP3 format, organize audio files into playlists, and export audio files to an iPod." (emphasis mine)

* Insert Twilight Zone theme here *
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · December 12, 2006 - 21:57 EST #104
Chris - well then I perhaps stand corrected. In which case, my revised comment is that you might have to acquire an older iPod. Apple's web page states that iTunes 7 is required for the current line of iPods. I'm just going off what is said on their site, but while I was apparently mistaken about iPod support in iTunes 2.0.2, there's the possibility that fifth-generation iPods won't sync to the old version of iTunes.

We advise you to take this discussion to a forum better suited for supporting iPod questions such as
Nick Losciuto · April 1, 2007 - 23:53 EST #105
When I first started to use ITunes in January, I remember there was some ridiculously cool feature where I could listen to radio stations in all the different major cities and it was live. Does anyone know what happened or how I can access that again???
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · April 2, 2007 - 11:11 EST #106
Nick - iTunes never had—to my knowledge—a function to listen to the actual broadcasts of local radio stations. There was, for a time, an option in the "Browse" portion of iTunes that listed the top songs from those radio stations, from which you could make song purchases. Alas, that feature doesn't seem to be available any more. All I find in the "Browse" viewer now is an item called "Charts" which is populated by Billboard. But that's probably just as good because not only can you go back many years, but all the local stations often culled their "top" songs from Billboard anyway.
dianne howard · May 9, 2007 - 21:53 EST #107
i have an imac g5 lamp, first generation running on mac osx 10.3.6, the new 5th generation ipods say they require a minimum sytem requirement of 10.3.9. If i download the newest version of iTunes will a 5th generation ipod be compatible with my mac?

(i ask because i can't possibly see how a comuter that is about 2 years old become outdated so quickly)
Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) · May 10, 2007 - 00:16 EST #108
Dianne - your computer isn't outdated. Only the operating system is. Why don't you update to 10.3.9?

(And yes, you won't be able to use the newest version of iTunes if you don't update the OS. There's no charge to go from 10.3.6. to 10.3.9.)

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